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When will better sitter availability policy be implemented?

I know this topic comes up quite frequently here, so you can consider me yet another frustrated customer with these same gripes hoping that all of our voices are eventually heard and responded too in kind.

I find it absolutely absurd that such a frequent situation exists where a sitter's calendar shows them as available only to be told the opposite after taking the time to consider them and making an inquiry. It is horribly inefficient and a waste of everybody's time.

I understand that there are many conditions on the sitters' ends that would cause them to appear available when they are in fact not. Perhaps the biggest is the actual service requested? For example when a sitter may be available for boarding and stop-ins over a given date range but not for house sitting... and even though I selected house sitting as the service I need (and not either of the other 2), the app still shows them as available. This is a major bug in the app and needs to be resolved.

I also understand that some sitters just choose not to prioritize keeping their calendars current so that they can pick and choose what jobs to take and not take (for selfish reasons... as opposed to basing the decision to not take the job on something like incompatible conditions or dog characteristics). And I know that sitters' listing positions in a customer's search results are somewhat affected by turning down "too many" jobs, but this obviously not enough. This is poor policy/culture being fostered by Rover and needs to be resolved. Although far from ideal, it might not hurt to take a page from Uber's book with respect to broadcasting availability (with certain parameters/restrictions enforced) and accepting (or choosing not to accept) relevant opportunities.

And finally, I understand that there are MANY scenarios falling between the 2 i just described that account for this issue and that not every case of this happening is 100% Rover's fault, but...

At the end of the day, for a customer to take the time to enter a handful of search parameters, be given a list of providers they believe (because that's what the app is telling them) meet all of their criteria (including availability), further refine that list manually by reading/evaluating the profiles of the sitters displayed to them and finally initiate contact with the sitters they feel will be a good fit (accepting it as a given that the matched criteria is accurate)... only to receive a response from the sitter along the lines of "I'd love to but i'm already watching someone else's dog" or "sorry, my calendar is not up to date - i'm not available" or any other denial for reason of "unavailability" (in opposition to what the app would have the customer believe, thus prompting them to invest time in pursuing that sitter's services) is 100% UNACCEPTABLE, regardless of the reason ... (more)

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a downvote, really? and without a followup comment. I posted here for some insight and to educate myself regarding an issue with the service. I did not make wild accusations, use offensive language or otherwise come here with the intent of stirring up trouble. Whoever downvoted, please explain...

Actually there is more than one person because I upvoted you to get rid of your previous downvote.

Ridiculous. Thanks Karen. And once again, anyone care to explain so that we can all better understand your viewpoint as a member of this community?

I'm going to upvote your valid question to eliminate a down vote.*Add'n. I agree that the product needs ongoing development, with search function, inc. too wide map results, filters for different service levels, and availability. As a sitter searching for a network backup sitter, I experienced this.

Dave, you're giving the voting process the attention it doesn't deserve. To me it's a rather ridiculous feature and basically serves as a distraction from the topic.

I agree Cindy, I totally am. I just get annoyed when there is no comment to go along with a downvote - it adds nothing to a community setting where most people set out to contribute positively. But you're right... it is quite a distraction.

This also ties in with the fact that according to "Rover" you absolutely cannot communicate WITHOUT selecting a date FIRST. If we could communicate FIRST we could solve many many of Rovers ridiculous rules/ policies. A VERY BIG UP VOTE FOR DAVE

I agree with Brenda A. Communication in real-time before selecting a date would solve a world of problems. Now I am stuck in limbo waiting on sitter #2 to respond after sitter #1 said they were booked even though their calendar said otherwise when I selected them? Frustrating!!!

As a sitter I know that 2019 the calendar function showing only available people worked. In the last two months May/June 2021 there has been several miss-referrals where I wasn't available on the calendar. For all the customers this is a huge waist of time-Sorry. Thanks programers for fixing this.

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I frequently get requests for services on dates when I have marked myself as unavailable, and even for animals that are outside my preferences (e.g. too big). The requests come through with a message from Rover acknowledging that the request does not match my settings.

I have also been in conversation with multiple people for the same dates. I try to do first come, first served- but if another request is more convenient (e.g. previous client, better timing) I will do what is best for me.

As a sitter, I wish it was possible to be more specific about dates and times when I am available through the Rover calendar, but it's limited.

I understand it is time-consuming to message multiple sitters, and frustrating to find out some are not available, despite their apparent openings. I really appreaciate when owners close the loop and tell me they've found someone else and don't require my services any more. That let's me manage myself and not leave anyone else hanging.

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yes, I agree that Rover needs to fix their app so that you can give more accurate availability. I also believe the app does show the customer if a sitter has another request pending, which is good.

And yes, all customers should let the sitters they've requested know if they're no longer needed - it's just common courtesy.

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One issue that I, as a sitter, have had with the app is that the map does not display when I receive a request. It displays about 1 in 10 times, since the app was updated a few months ago. I've reached out to Rover support about this but nothing has changed.

I have a full calendar, but I focus on daily dog walks. I keep my availability updated, but I have to turn down clients when I already have bookings and their home is on the other side of my service area. I could accept another client, just not one that is 4 miles away from my other walks. The map not displaying just makes it even harder for me to determine whether I am able to accept the booking and leads to me declining right off the bat, especially when the booking is pretty last minute. I might turn down last minute bookings from new clients because my schedule is too full to get to a meet and greet, even though I am available for the dates they need.

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I would add that when someone's calendar shows them as available but they receive a request and they don't like something about it (like a type of dog they can't or don't want to accept, or owner's attitude, or a mention of extreme high energy and peeing in the house etc), they will say they are NOT available instead of explaining that they clearly state they don't accept the breed or they just don't think the person/dog is a good fit.

Others just don't even respond when they are not interested in the request.

And when it comes to the app, there are just so many flaws in it, but Rover is not looking to fix it.

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Yes Dave, as Lenka stated, we get 'all types'. We even get scammers, if you can believe it. Each sitter deals with clients differently. I personally respond to everyone, and if I don't want the booking I'll say we aren't a good fit for each other. It ends it on a good note.

+1 Lena - It's good to hear to that you do not engage in this type of communication, Cindy. And in my opinion, what you describe should be the norm that is mandated by Rover. It's troubling to me to know that Rover is ok with ineffective (and sometimes downright rude) communication with customers.

I know I've said all this already and am now starting to sound like a broken record. Just saying that Lenna's post is exactly what I was talking about in my original post when I said that more effective communication might help to mitigate some of the frustration created by the calendar issue..

I agree. Communication is the KEY. But so many people don't take this business seriously.... I look at their pages too, and see if they have a 100% response rate. If they do, it's usually good.

Dave, I totally agree. But, if you think about it, sitter shopping shouldn't be easy, you're entrusting your dog's life in their care. How they respond initially helps you by 'telling' you what their profiles don't say.

mmmmmmmm i don't think I can agree with you there, Cindy. I'm talking about basic customer service from an overall vantage point. To be truly satisfied with the Rover "product" (or any product for that matter), the level of frustration brought on by the calendar/availability and subsequent...

...communication issues shouldn't exist. Taking into account a sitter's initial response is a smart thing to do on the part of the owner, but again, Rover should be striving to have every initial response be one that would make me want to work with that sitter. Just bad policy on their part, imo.

I see your point, and do agree that it is completely reasonable to expect a certain level of basic customer service. In reality..it doesn't happen. Rover has no desire to get involved at that level. They provide a platform for owners and IC's, and make a LOT of good money doing so.

Couldn't agree more. It's unfortunate that there are really no comparable alternatives... and with Doggyvacay acquired by Rover, it doesn't look like there's anyone hot on their tails. I'll still be voicing my issues to Rover themselves in hopes that I'll be 1 of many and some change may come about.

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You've made some good points. As a sitter, I can tell you that we also experience much frustration with the Rover App. Billing structure, search algorithm insanity, plus many more.

Each Rover sitter is an Independent Contractor. We are not employees of Rover. Every sitter has their own particular way of managing bookings. The Rover app does its best to provide a general functionality to link owner and sitter, and considering it's trying to consolidate a group of business owners (each with their own business plan) in one big search engine, it's not too bad. But yes, there are many things one can get frustrated about.

Not all sitters are alike (I've seen profiles that made me cringe), and not all owners are alike either. I would kindly suggest that instead of going on a crusade to 'fix' Rover, you find peace of mind by finding a sitter you like, sticking with him/her, and be one of those customers we love to have as a regular. You may find more success in choosing a sitter who will only sit one dog at a time. As a single-client boarder, I make sure each and every request receives a prompt answer, that my calendar is always updated, and I am a sitter that you can trust completely from start to finish. Your feelings about will Rover will diminish with time when you find 'your' sitter. :)

May you find success, Cindy

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I don't know if I'd go so far as to say i'm out to fix rover, but I do feel that as consumers (especially of "products" as important to me as rover) we shouldn't have to settle. And I can't think of a worse business model than not wanting to be ever-improving and exceeding customer expectations...

...so to me it is fitting that a customer would express dissatisfaction and that the producer of the product would be eager to hear it and act accordingly. Plus, how can one ever find their favorite sitter if the app enabling the search does not perform?

And just one final comment on sitters not being employees of Rover... while this is true on paper, its sitters and the level of service they provide is what makes up the majority of Rover's brand. So if a customer is unsatisfied with a sitter (because their calendar isn't up to date or because...

...they didn't care for their pet adequately), it reflects poorly on that brand. I would venture to guess that Rover considers all of its sitters "employees". Rover is far more than a search engine, as they must stand behind the services advertised and booked through their platform. Unlike Google

You're preaching to the chorus...the Rover app is often talked about by sitters who would like a nicer, smoother platform to work with. But, for all its flaws, it DOES work. They try to guarantee good results but it doesn't always happen...for owners and sitters.

Also, while looking for a specific sitter is a pain, if you've used them before you can go back into a previous conversation from another booking and tap their icon to get to their profile.

Lastly, Rover specifically states, "Pet sitters and dog walkers listed on Rover must be at least 18 years of age and are considered independent contractors. If your profile is approved, you'll be running your own small business and will not be considered a Rover employee."

I stand corrected. However I still maintain my stance that Rover is set up in such a way that all of these small business owners and their performance/conduct are a direct reflection of Rover itself. Maybe the fact that they DON'T consider you all as "employees" (in spirit) is part of the problem.

I also believe that a sitter's conduct can either make Rover look really good, enough to overlook its flaws, or really bad, to the point an owner wants nothing more to do with it. That said, I'm glad we're not employees; I hold myself to a higher standard that clients appreciate.

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I encountered the same problem not too long ago. I needed to hire a house sitter to look after my dog after I had some foot surgery. It was an unusual request because I would be home but, as a sitter myself, I laid it out and was gave them more than the latitude a regular customer might.

I contacted at least 12 house sitters in my area whose schedules showed availability. Some responded quite quickly that they were not available. One agreed to come over for a M&G and then begged off because a friend decided to celebrate her birthday that weekend. One after another, I got responses that they were unavailable despite what their calendar showed and none seemed at all perturbed about it.

Rover needs to do a great deal to fix its search function. I've been complaining about the true inability to search by zipcode. Having to use the map is clunky. In a large city, getting results that are way far away is ridiculous. Many of my customers don't even have cars. I am going to pick up a dog this afternoon for his holiday stay because the owners do not have a car. When I was asked about pickup and delivery, I asked where they lived because I wouldn't want to fight city traffic even if they only lived a few miles away.

Rewarding those who don't turn down jobs because they're not available is far more meaningful to a customer than the unknown reason some sitter who lives across town always shows up first. Rover knows when you receive requests outside of your preferences and calendar settings and those rejections don't count against a sitter.

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I can only start to imagine the added complexity that comes along with a bigger city. Frustration abound... for sitters and owners alike. I did just read that Rover recently acquired aa semi-competitor mainly for access to their technology... maybe some good upgrades to the app are in the works.

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Based upon your frustration you sound like a long time Rover user and many of us will agree with your statements about sitters keeping their availability current but alas they don't. Many sitters only provide services occasionally and many sitters do this as a full time business.

There is little Rover HQ can do to resolve your issues with the individual sitters as we are all independent contractors on the Rover platform.

Best of luck in the future

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I disagree about there being little Rover HQ can do. 1). they can fix the app so that so that when a sitter is booked for one service such as boarding, it does not show them as available for another service. 2). they can also modify the workflow/policy to negatively impact a sitter's status/standing/visibility if they do not keep their calendar updated or if they turn down too many jobs (for any reason)... or add incentive for the opposite. An easy way to do this would be to publish stats on each sitter's page indicating the percent of jobs they they accept (or something along those lines)... similar to how stats regarding responsiveness are currently posted. As a customer, if I saw that a sitter only accepts 50% of the jobs they're asked to do, I probably wouldn't waste my time reading their profile and reviews and/or looking at their photos... instead I'd put that time into those with higher percentages. The fact that sitters are independent contractors and that they range from very part-time to 100% full time is irrelevant. Uber has the exact same model and their app does not show a bunch of available cars on the roads who aren't picking up riders. If a driver says he's available, receives a call and does not jump right on it, he will start receiving less calls. Also, there are bonuses awarded every time a driver accepts X rides in a row. Uber is not perfect, but they definitely do not have this issue. Yes, it would be more complicated for Rover to implement something like this, but considering the alternative of doing nothing and having a bunch of frustrated customers such as myself ranting all over the place....

To me, it just sounds like a customer service nightmare and the fact that nothing is being done to rectify the issue tells me something about their corporate values. If there was another comparable option, I would use them instead of Rover because of this.

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May I suggest that for the items that you think Rover could impact, you reach out to them directly? It could help achieve progress more quickly, especially if it's something remedied by programming or communications. I realize that may not fix all of it, but hopefully will make moves in the right direction.

I'll add that when I wanted to find a nearby sitter or two in case needed for my dog or another similar small dog who I couldn't accommodate during a peak time, I was unpleasantly surprised that the sitters I contacted, whose calendars showed available, were very slow to respond (& the response rate is measured and posted for all to see) then stated they weren't available or even wrote that they didn't want to grow their business (and yet they kept their account settings such that they'd show up in search results to new clients, rather than change it to accept existing clients only). Shocking. The only instances where I find calendar availability doesn't really match is the pet parent doesn't have sufficient time for a meet&greet prior to booking (those requests are immediate declines), or they haven't read my profile and want to book a pet that would be incompatible (could be due to size, breed, energy level, or the pet's preventative health not matching stated requirements), or I have repeat dog parents with pending plans (my dog's circle of friends always come first and I always make sure they get cared for, even if it means introducing them to another sitter).

As Karen said well, that's on top of the search function providing a huge unworkable radius in a highly developed area.

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Absolutely. That is my next step. I wanted to post here first to see if there was any insight to be gained from actual sitters as to why this is the case. Brittney W's post is a perfect example - I was aware of that but I'm sure there are many other facets of which I am unaware.

Also, I was under the impression that this forum was moderated by Rover HQ employees and that this type of post would in fact be heard by some of the right ears.

I understand your situation. If I searched for care for a dog & entered in all the profile data to filter the possible matches, I'd be very disappointed with what you experienced and limited search function. *This forum is "moderated by users, overseen by Rover" https://www.rover.com/community/faq